Foxtrot in Seattle...

[Mark Sarsfield]

A guy on SubSim visited a Foxtrot sub that used to be in Seattle.  Anyone know where it went to?  He posted some nice interior photos...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=818246&posted=1#post818246

[Fred Tannenbaum]

I believe it's now in San Diego.

[Mark Sarsfield]

So it is... http://www.sdmaritime.com/contentpage.asp?ContentID=177

[Lance Dean]

What are we doing with a Russian sub?

[Mark Sarsfield]

Russians will sell anything for a quick buck.  I'm guessing that they needed the money.

[K0EFV]

Yes Foxtrot B-39 was sent to San Diego and co-located with the Aircraft Carrier  Saratoga which is still US Navy waiting final approval as a Museum ship.  The 2nd Soviet sub B143 located in Rhode Island suffered a far worse fate and sank at her moorings during a storm in 2007.  I understand salvage is still underway  and the cause is still not known.  HNSA has photos, photos of salvage operations are at juliet484.org
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[K0EFV]

Error I think I meant the Aircraft Carrier MDIWAY CV-41.  At any rate i was just told that Midway will be conducting an Amateur Radio Event April 12, using the call sign NI6IW.  They will be operating from the Midway's main radio room.  What is most interesting is one of the operators will be Ken Laughn (AF6HA).  I discover that Ken is a Submarine Veteran just finishing his 25 years of service.  He enlisted in the Navy just out of high school. His bio is pretty long but he had served on USS Stonewall Jackson SSBN-634, USS Florida SSBN-728, Proteus AS-19, Sub Base at Kings Bay Ga. Carrier John Stennis CVN-74,  and even a stint at the Pentagon.  I will make a special point to be on the air that day and try my best to make contact with Ken, and thank him for his service to this country.  I just had to get this plug in HEHE
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[Mark Sarsfield]

I'll be in K.C. that weekend far from any Ham equipment.

[Jim M.]

Yes Foxtrot B-39 was sent to San Diego and co-located with the Aircraft Carrier  Saratoga which is still US Navy waiting final approval as a Museum ship.  The 2nd Soviet sub B143 located in Rhode Island suffered a far worse fate and sank at her moorings during a storm in 2007.  I understand salvage is still underway  and the cause is still not known.  HNSA has photos, photos of salvage operations are at juliet484.org
K0EFV

From what I recall, the USN will be conducting salvage ops on the Providence boat sometime later this year..

[Mark Sarsfield]

The only way for a sub to sink in a harbor would be that the ballast tanks vent valves were opened and allowed to fill with water.  Several fleet boats were lost in tow during and after WWII.  Rough seas and a deactivated hydraulic system would eventually cause/allow the valves to open.  That's my 2 cents on how it sank.

I'm glad to hear that they are going to salvage it.  I wouldn't want to be the poor slob that has to clean the muck out of everything, though. Providence harbor has a filthy, slimey mud that smells of everything foul mixed into one noxious concoction.

[Fred Tannenbaum]

What I understand about Juliet 484 from a visit to their Web site recently was that while the USN may try to raise it, they're not sure it ever will be able to be a museum again.

[Mark Sarsfield]

Hmmm... almost sounds like a wasted effort, if you can't go inside, anymore.  Maybe they should just sink it somewhere else and use it for practicing diving/salvage operations.  Or, maybe they want to raise it in order to practice a salvage operation.  I'm sure that they'll find some way to justify the money and effort.

[Dave595]

There is another Russian sub tied up next to the Queen Mary in Long Beach, CA.  The Scorpion" b-427 is open for tours to the public.  I am sure glad that I was not part of her crew.  They had nothing in the way of "creature comforts".  Give me a good old U.S. of A. boat, of any kind!!

http://www.russiansublongbeach.com/faqs.html

[Lance Dean]

There is another Russian sub tied up next to the Queen Mary in Long Beach, CA.  The Scorpion" b-427 is open for tours to the public.  I am sure glad that I was not part of her crew.  They had nothing in the way of "creature comforts".  Give me a good old U.S. of A. boat, of any kind!!

http://www.russiansublongbeach.com/faqs.html

Thanks for mentioning this sub.  I've added it to the forum.